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The implosion: editor’s comment

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I’m not fully convinced that 2010 will be the watershed election many people anticipate in terms of returning Republicans to power. I really hope people haven’t forgotten Katrina, the “last throes” of Iraq, the “culture of corruption” and all the rest that made 2006 and 2008 such important elections.

So yeah… Hopefully people will remember where we were. But… This PPP poll (pdf) should give us all reason to be concerned.

Last night, I got caught up in a discussion of why things look so bad in Mass. Here’s what I wrote:

the folks from the other side that are so fired up to vote are hearing:

  1. there’s a gov’t takeover of healthcare in the works;
  2. that going to your doctor will be like going to DMV;
  3. that their taxes will be increased to pay for deadbeat’s Viagra and abortions;
  4. that those with health care will see their services rationed,
  5. etc, etc, etc

On the other hand, folks that voted for Democrats in 2008 have learned:

  1. they made Joe Lieberman President;
  2. they will be mandated to send money to a health insurance company that may or may not provide adequate care;
  3. Obama’s promises mean diddly; if you have decent health care, he wants to tax it;
  4. the rich deserve everything Bush gave them and then some… the stimulus was 1/3 tax cuts…
  5. Wall Street bankers deserve 7 digit bonuses on the taxpayers’ dime;
  6. War is awesome
  7. torturers are pretty cool too… prosecutions smoshecutions!!
  8. Cap and trade? EFCA? Financial reform? Accountability of any sort? As far as Democarts are concerned, [Yawn... Whatevah...]

And all along, those of us that wanted to hold Obama to his promises (dating back to the campaign and the fight for FISA) have been told by far too many people that we needed to pipe down and defer to Obama’s secret plan.

Well, we’ve been telling y’all for a long time that this – a republican filling Ted Kennedy’s seat – would be the result of your blind loyalty.

Unfortunately, I don’t expect that this diary has changed many minds… After all, there are plenty of people that still believe George Bush was a great President.

Update [2010-1-9 22:34:26 by Mike Stark]: A lot of folks I blame commenting. Not sure how big the comment thread will get on this, so here’s my response to those that think I should suck it up and start calling folks in Mass:

It looks like Ralph Nader taught the Democratic party nothing about what happens when you abandon your base. Even after suffering through 8 years of George Bush, we still get fucked over by our party leaders.

So now it is a question of whether we stick with the Democratic establishment simply because because when they are fucking us, they don’t pull our hair and call us bitches.

I guess I don’t like being fucked. So no… I won’t be making those calls.

Update [2010-1-9 22:34:26 by Mike Stark]: I see some are confused. I’m not giving up the ghost; I’m not quitting. I’m saying that y’all need to stop giving everything while expecting nothing. It’s not OK for Democrats to talk sweet to you in campaign season, then treat you like shit when it comes time to govern. At some point, you need to make it known that your support comes at a price. And that if that price isn’t paid, you don’t play anymore. Where else are they going to go?

The reason we keep getting fucked is that we keep letting it happen. Better to lose one seat in Mass. than 6 or 7 seats in November, not to mention the House. Better to send the wake up call now than in November.

Update [2010-1-10 0:5:38 by Mike Stark]: Look… this is Mass. we are talking about. It’s not exactly a swing state. There’s a reason Coakley is in trouble, and that’s got to do with the energy level of the base (as it always does in off-year elections).

Some of y’all are cheerfully whistling past the graveyard, saying we should keep doing what we’ve been doing. I’m saying that the reason our side’s energy level has bottomed out has something to do with the results we’ve seen from the Obama administration (and I’m guessing that the bankster bailouts are probably the most corrosive of the letdowns, but that’s neither here nor there)… I’m saying that if you want to elect more Democrats, the way to do it isn’t to keep enabling Obama’s sell-out to corporatism by being good little puppies… no… the way to elect more Democrats is to stop blindly following Obama and to start demanding that he do the things you elected him to do. IT’S TIME TO MAKE HIM DO IT.

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Written by Mike Stark

January 10th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

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  1. Crazy, isn’t it?

    You simply say that progressives keep getting rolled, because we keep letting the moderates and conservatives have their way, every time – and people call you insane (and that’s one of the nicer terms).

    Why would the administration ever move back to a more progressive position on anything – unless the progressives start saying, “no”, at least once in a while.

    As a caucus, the progressives have been unwilling to unleash their political power – but the day is coming.

    The best part? They young are ever more progressive than they used to be, and with the advent of the internet, they are more active and invested in the political system than their parents and grandparents ever were. If we can hold out another 10 years, I predict a completely progressive takeover of the wider political landscape.

    If we can hold out another 10 years without watching our Republic turn from These United States to USA, Inc., a limited liability corporation, that is.

    Angie in WA State

    10 Jan 10 at 9:44 pm

  2. I would second Angie, but . . . too late. The US is a corporatocracy and has been for about 50 years – ever since DDE warned us of the Military Industrial Complex.

    And Mike:

    I really hope people haven’t forgotten Katrina, the “last throes” of Iraq, the “culture of corruption”.

    Sorry, they have. It comes with having abandoned education and instead embracing corporate media as the cornerstone of all our information. For more information on this and other issues, read 1984.

    Brian

    10 Jan 10 at 10:44 pm

  3. “I’m saying that the reason our side’s energy level has bottomed out”

    Therein lies the fault in your thinking. There is no “our side” for the typical american. Class warfare, the assault on the middle class is the division, not r’s or d’s.

    Mark G.

    12 Jan 10 at 1:35 pm

  4. Mike,
    Thanks for calling it the way you see it. I read this over at the evil orange empire (I followed a link) and the comments and behavior in the resulting thread reminded me why I quit going there years ago. Those enablers are going to get exactly what they deserve… unfortunately the rest of us will pay too.

    sfflyman

    16 Jan 10 at 1:56 pm

  5. So one of the reasons people are supposed to vote for Democrats is because a man who is not ever going to be on the ballot again, George Bush, mishandled Katrina five years ago? Talk about lame. As for the “Culture of Corruption”, remind me, which party are Charlie Rangel, John Murtha and assorted others members of again?

    Bob

    16 Jan 10 at 6:04 pm

  6. I agree with you 100%. Hold them accountable.

    It is this simple: Obama must face a House of Representatives capable of impeaching him if progressive Democrats and Republicans band together.

    I voted for Obama, but the crap that is going on with Wall Street right now stinks so much to high heaven that we need the threat of impeachment hanging over this White House. Even if the Senate wouldn’t convict, the important thing is that impeachment will bring an investigation.

    I’ll say it again: if our party keeps abusing us, let’s make sure in 2010 the house of representatives becomes a credible threat to Obama’s behavior.

    Ben

    16 Jan 10 at 9:26 pm

  7. Hey y’all…

    One of the biggest criticisms of this approach is that the Democratic consultant class and their handmaidens in the media will spin any Democratic defeat as a rebuke of liberalism (and the overly liberal Barack Obama).

    By dropping everything to help out in Mass or other election, progressives make that an easy case to make. Until more people loudly proclaim their disillusionment with corporate Democrats and make it known that they had nothing to do with supporting establishment candidates, they cannot credibly make the claim that it was their ideology that was rejected by the voters. We have to make it known that the corporate Party was cut loose by progressives and why so: they weren’t fulfilling campaign promises.

    Mike Stark

    16 Jan 10 at 11:07 pm

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